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Re: APRS
Just ordered the hardware componets for my APRS setup,should have it by the end of the week. I will install it over the weekend and download the software. I may need Hector's assistance in getting it configured. I ordered the parts from byonics we have exchanged e-mails for the past few days, and they tell me I should have everything required
with the exception of the software. I will download the UI-View32 and see if I can get it up and running.
with the exception of the software. I will download the UI-View32 and see if I can get it up and running.
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Re: APRS
I discovered a bit of a quirk in the way that my Yaesu 8800 functions while using APRS. The 8800 is a dual band transceiver and has the ability to do packet. It has a data port on the rear panel of the radio which serves to communicate with the necessary other hardware, including the computer. So far, so good.
As a dual band transceiver, it is capable of vhf/uhf, vhf/vhf, etc. Selecting either the right or the left band makes that band the "main" band and the one on which you can transmit. Both bands are still in the receive mode regardless of which band is "main". Still good.
The 8800 has a setting that allows a selection of which band on which the unit will receive APRS data, either left, right or main. Transmission of packet however, is fixed on the main band. So this means that in order to use this radio for APRS on one side and voice communications on the other, I must manually switch back and forth between voice communication and APRS transmission. Keeping the voice communications side as the "main" band during long conversations or forgetting that I have it set that way means that my position data will not be sent to the other units. In fact, what will happen is there will be periodic packet bursts on the voice communications frequency as this will have been selected as the main band.
Other than learning to live with it, any thoughts?
As a dual band transceiver, it is capable of vhf/uhf, vhf/vhf, etc. Selecting either the right or the left band makes that band the "main" band and the one on which you can transmit. Both bands are still in the receive mode regardless of which band is "main". Still good.
The 8800 has a setting that allows a selection of which band on which the unit will receive APRS data, either left, right or main. Transmission of packet however, is fixed on the main band. So this means that in order to use this radio for APRS on one side and voice communications on the other, I must manually switch back and forth between voice communication and APRS transmission. Keeping the voice communications side as the "main" band during long conversations or forgetting that I have it set that way means that my position data will not be sent to the other units. In fact, what will happen is there will be periodic packet bursts on the voice communications frequency as this will have been selected as the main band.
Other than learning to live with it, any thoughts?
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Re: APRS
hmfigueroa wrote:Wow Dave, that is strange.
On the Yaseu radios I have used with a data port, I could choose with a menu setting the data port. Data was only sent to that specific port regardless of what other mode or configuration of the other side.
Hector:
I'll look to see if there are any setting which will help but in the one conversation I had with Yaesu tech support, they offered no help.
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Re: APRS
Finally. All of the pieces have come together and it works just like it's supposed to. The system consists of a Garmin 276C, a Yaesu 8800, a ruggedized laptop, and the Signal Link USB. The software consist of AGW Packet Engine Pro and AGW Tracker.
In this setup, the Signal Link serves as a TNC through the AGW Pro. The benefit of the Signal Link is that simplifies the wiring necessary to make the system work. It does not require a separate power source as it receives its power from the USB cable. Both transmit and recieve levels can be set from the front of the unit as can the the transmit delay. The unit comes complete with ALL cables, fully assembled and compatible with whatever radio you have.
One of the areas where the Signal link shines, is technical support. I speak from personal experience - they know how to help to make sure that their product works and that it is set up properly. The installation was quick and easy.
The part of APRS that is, by far, the most difficult, is choosing the right settings on all the the various components of the system. I have yet to run into a hobby (or whatever this is called) that suffers from such a deplorable lack of information on how to correctly set up your system. There is literally nothing anywhere (in written form) that you can turn to help set up a functioning APRS system.
In my case, this problem was solved with 2 phone calls to Hector (KG6VRL). I cannot thank Hector enough for his help and knowledge.
In this setup, the Signal Link serves as a TNC through the AGW Pro. The benefit of the Signal Link is that simplifies the wiring necessary to make the system work. It does not require a separate power source as it receives its power from the USB cable. Both transmit and recieve levels can be set from the front of the unit as can the the transmit delay. The unit comes complete with ALL cables, fully assembled and compatible with whatever radio you have.
One of the areas where the Signal link shines, is technical support. I speak from personal experience - they know how to help to make sure that their product works and that it is set up properly. The installation was quick and easy.
The part of APRS that is, by far, the most difficult, is choosing the right settings on all the the various components of the system. I have yet to run into a hobby (or whatever this is called) that suffers from such a deplorable lack of information on how to correctly set up your system. There is literally nothing anywhere (in written form) that you can turn to help set up a functioning APRS system.
In my case, this problem was solved with 2 phone calls to Hector (KG6VRL). I cannot thank Hector enough for his help and knowledge.
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Re: APRS
I've never used a Yeasu, but on Kenwood dual band mobiles, there is a way to have a "Control" band selection. This way you could have one band selected, but the one under "Control" would be used with your Mic.DaveK wrote:So this means that in order to use this radio for APRS on one side and voice communications on the other, I must manually switch back and forth between voice communication and APRS transmission. Keeping the voice communications side as the "main" band during long conversations or forgetting that I have it set that way means that my position data will not be sent to the other units. In fact, what will happen is there will be periodic packet bursts on the voice communications frequency as this will have been selected as the main band.
I'm sure there is some way to configure it so no manual configuration is needed.
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Re: APRS
unwiredadventures wrote:I've never used a Yeasu, but on Kenwood dual band mobiles, there is a way to have a "Control" band selection. This way you could have one band selected, but the one under "Control" would be used with your Mic.DaveK wrote:So this means that in order to use this radio for APRS on one side and voice communications on the other, I must manually switch back and forth between voice communication and APRS transmission. Keeping the voice communications side as the "main" band during long conversations or forgetting that I have it set that way means that my position data will not be sent to the other units. In fact, what will happen is there will be periodic packet bursts on the voice communications frequency as this will have been selected as the main band.
I'm sure there is some way to configure it so no manual configuration is needed.
I've had two separate conversations with Yaesu techs, both of whom have told me it's not possible. If you know some way to hack into the radio to avoid the manual switching, let me know. I guess that I can handle the manual switching but its quite a pain and I might just forget.
DaveK
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Re: APRS
Why dont you just get a cheap dedicated 2m rig like the FT-1802 for APRS. Set it and forget it. Plus, it would be a good backup radio if your main failed.DaveK wrote:I've had two separate conversations with Yaesu techs, both of whom have told me it's not possible. If you know some way to hack into the radio to avoid the manual switching, let me know. I guess that I can handle the manual switching but its quite a pain and I might just forget.
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