Facebook

Topics that have been discussed in the past and closed to further posts are placed in this forum to keep the main forum current and relevant.
User avatar
cruiserlarry
OAUSA Board Member
Posts: 2773
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:23 pm
Call Sign: W6LPB
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Contact:

Re: Facebook

#11

Post by cruiserlarry » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:25 pm

unwiredadventures wrote: X2 on this. I'm finding Facebook less interesting the more I use it.
Less interesting doesn't mean less useful...there is no larger audience with which to announce our events and ham nets than the Facebook audience. One needn't be a participant to see the value in terms of publicity, IMO.

Facebook, for better or worse, has gone beyond the boundries of a college kid's social scene. Many major corporations now maintain pages to distribute product information and keep their "friends" up to date concerning product and corporate information. There is no easier way to have your information linked to others - anyone who is interested in what you have to offer is but a click away from distributing that info to all of their "friends" - much faster communication than traditional ads or polling e-mails, IMO.

While I use Facebook, I have not tried Flicker, and I don't understand its function other than a picture-holding site. Based on the enthusiasm shown here, it is much more than that. It would be great if someone familiar with Flicker could summarize how it is used as a social medium, and even how it differs from Facebook, aside from picture quality... :mrgreen:
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear really bright, until they start talking

W6LPB / WPOK492

Become a DIRTY PARTS FACEBOOK fan !!!

User avatar
DaveK
Site Admin
Posts: 3207
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:33 am
Call Sign: K6DTK
Location: Southern California

Re: Facebook

#12

Post by DaveK » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:25 pm

cruiserlarry wrote:
unwiredadventures wrote: X2 on this. I'm finding Facebook less interesting the more I use it.
Less interesting doesn't mean less useful...there is no larger audience with which to announce our events and ham nets than the Facebook audience. One needn't be a participant to see the value in terms of publicity, IMO.

Facebook, for better or worse, has gone beyond the boundries of a college kid's social scene. Many major corporations now maintain pages to distribute product information and keep their "friends" up to date concerning product and corporate information. There is no easier way to have your information linked to others - anyone who is interested in what you have to offer is but a click away from distributing that info to all of their "friends" - much faster communication than traditional ads or polling e-mails, IMO.

While I use Facebook, I have not tried Flicker, and I don't understand its function other than a picture-holding site. Based on the enthusiasm shown here, it is much more than that. It would be great if someone familiar with Flicker could summarize how it is used as a social medium, and even how it differs from Facebook, aside from picture quality... :mrgreen:
The flaw in your thinking is the audience facebook purports to offer, will see us. Additionally, while it is true that there are quite a number of facebook users, we do not want and should not expose our site to a great number of them.

Our objective here at OAUSA is not to have our information linked arbitrarily to any other site. Our objective here is to create and maintain the best outdoor site possible and we should not sacrifice the quality we have worked hard to achieve for the expediency of distributing our info by a "simple click".

If your objective is to have a location where people can get information on our site, (or as you say, a page to distribute product information) there is no better place to get it than visiting our site.
DaveK
K6DTK


Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

User avatar
Chazz Layne
Posts: 721
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:39 pm
Call Sign: KF7FEN
Location: Prescott, Arizona
Contact:

Re: Facebook

#13

Post by Chazz Layne » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:06 pm

cruiserlarry wrote:While I use Facebook, I have not tried Flicker, and I don't understand its function other than a picture-holding site. Based on the enthusiasm shown here, it is much more than that. It would be great if someone familiar with Flicker could summarize how it is used as a social medium, and even how it differs from Facebook, aside from picture quality... :mrgreen:
For the most part, it is. The big difference between Flickr and other photo-dump sites (Photobucket, etc) is there community-oriented approach to it. There are a lot more features built into the site to encourage critiquing and sharing of photography and the subjects (in our case, places) photographed, without the often overbearing social side of it. It lacks so many of the basic "social features", it is actually kind of hard to compare it. There aren't any of the usual "like", "share", or "George did this" feeds going on there. The most common way people come across groups is either by a direct search (how I found the Mojave Desert group, and in turn Frank), or by browsing subject/location to find an interesting image and investigating from there. This sort of sharing seems weed out many of the sorts we wouldn't want visiting (as Dave pointed out). For example, you could pick anyone at random from the Mojave Desert group and chances are not only could we trust them with our most precious locations - they've probably already been there for the very same reasons.

In other words, while Flickr isn't quite as "everywhere" and doesn't integrate quite as well, the people we bring into our group from Flickr will tend to be a much better fit already and will often have far more to contribute.
Chazz Laynedotcom

User avatar
cruiserlarry
OAUSA Board Member
Posts: 2773
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:23 pm
Call Sign: W6LPB
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Contact:

Re: Facebook

#14

Post by cruiserlarry » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:42 pm

DaveK wrote: The flaw in your thinking is the audience facebook purports to offer, will see us. Additionally, while it is true that there are quite a number of facebook users, we do not want and should not expose our site to a great number of them.
I am amused at how you can assign a flaw to my thinking on a medium you have admittedly no experience with....

While Facebook users may not all be OAUSA material (kind of elitist, don't you think, Dave :lol: ?), the way it works tends to prevent random links from just happening. Folks that I've encounterd, as well as many of my friends with business sites, don't find themselves randonly linked to ne'er-do -wells...most people don't spend time, given the vastness of the medium, just hooking up to sites for which they have no interest in promoting, or worse, want to trash. Linking is rarely random, even though, theotretically, it could be done that way...that's why Facebook has grown the way it has, and why some time with it might alter your view about it.
DaveK wrote:Our objective here at OAUSA is not to have our information linked arbitrarily to any other site. Our objective here is to create and maintain the best outdoor site possible and we should not sacrifice the quality we have worked hard to achieve for the expediency of distributing our info by a "simple click".
OAUSA is not affected at all by the Facebook page - it is a separate entity, and anyone interested will still have to join OAUSA by registering. Facebook is merely a means of providing a much larger audience of perspective members information of our existence.
DaveK wrote:If your objective is to have a location where people can get information on our site, (or as you say, a page to distribute product information) there is no better place to get it than visiting our site.
[/quote]

True. but Coca-Cola didn't wait for people to buy a bottle and drink it, one at a time, to promote their "product" - they advertised in the various mediums of the day (and still do - in fact, they have almost 14 million people who follow them on their Facebook page :mrgreen: )

So, we can sit and wait for people to find us, or... ;)
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear really bright, until they start talking

W6LPB / WPOK492

Become a DIRTY PARTS FACEBOOK fan !!!

User avatar
DaveK
Site Admin
Posts: 3207
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:33 am
Call Sign: K6DTK
Location: Southern California

Re: Facebook

#15

Post by DaveK » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:54 pm

Larry:

No need to be amused that I assign flaws to your thinking. On many matters, it seems to be flawed. :lol:

Your first flaw is your convenient assumption that "a lack of experience" equates to no knowledge. You forget that I see these things from a perspective that you don't. While you are busy on your facebook informing the world about your latest rogaine purchase, I see firsthand the darker side of these sites, especially from the criminal prosecution perspective.

The biggest flaw in your thinking is the assumption that by merely having a face page, we will automatically attract large numbers of new people. This is not just flawed thinking, it is downright naive. If having a facebook presence was as rich in advertising as you imagine, no one in his right mind would continue to pay for advertising elsewhere.

I understand your need to shed your elitist label, but you are going to have to come up with a better approach than trying to stick it on someone who dislikes facebook. But, nice try.

I too want to spread the word about OAUSA, but it seems a better choice to wisely focus our advertising than throwing it out indiscriminately. If we were selling Coca-Cola perhaps I would feel differently.
DaveK
K6DTK


Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

User avatar
cruiserlarry
OAUSA Board Member
Posts: 2773
Joined: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:23 pm
Call Sign: W6LPB
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Contact:

Re: Facebook

#16

Post by cruiserlarry » Tue Oct 05, 2010 12:09 am

DaveK wrote:Larry:

No need to be amused that I assign flaws to your thinking. On many matters, it seems to be flawed. :lol:
Flawed ? Maybe. But flexible, and willing to change my perspective based on the input of new information - Critical thinking, to be specific. :mrgreen:
DaveK wrote:Your first flaw is your convenient assumption that "a lack of experience" equates to no knowledge. You forget that I see these things from a perspective that you don't.
I didn't forget at all - in fact I have great respect for your perspective (whether I agree or not). You forget I was turned down when I asked for your input on the possible downside to a Facebook account for OAUSA.
DaveK wrote:The biggest flaw in your thinking is the assumption that by merely having a face page, we will automatically attract large numbers of new people. This is not just flawed thinking, it is downright naive.
At no time did I state we would automatically attract large numbers of people - just that it is possible. As someone who had helped construct an advertising campaign for Bank of America in the late 70's, and having worked in retail for almost 35 years, I have a pretty good understanding of advertising. Naive - no; aware, yes.
DaveK wrote:I understand your need to shed your elitist label, but you are going to have to come up with a better approach than trying to stick it on someone who dislikes facebook.
Not sure where you see a difference - the insinuation that someone is not as knowledgeable or aware as you because they don't know your perspective of Facebook is every bit as elitist as anything I've been accused of here...
DaveK wrote:I too want to spread the word about OAUSA, but it seems a better choice to wisely focus our advertising than throwing it out indiscriminately.
This is focused at a specific audience - this is where some experience on Facebook would be helpful - and nothing is being thrown out indiscriminately.

I hope, with help from Chazz and Ollie, it will benefit OAUSAand it's membership ;)
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear really bright, until they start talking

W6LPB / WPOK492

Become a DIRTY PARTS FACEBOOK fan !!!

User avatar
OLLIE
OAUSA Board Member
Posts: 2693
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:31 am
Call Sign: K6JYB
Location: Sweet Home Alabama!!!

Re: Facebook

#17

Post by OLLIE » Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:35 am

You can now visit our or become a fan of the Outdoor Adventure USA Facebook page by going to the following link.

Become a FACEBOOK fan !!! OUTDOOR ADVENTURE USA
"OLLIE"
(K6JYB)


APRS
K6JYB ("BugEater")
K6JYB-7 (VX-8R)


http://www.facebook.com/FJOllie

"Some people live an entire lifetime and wonder if they have ever made a difference in the world, the Marines don't have that problem."
-Ronald Reagan


CHECK OUT THE OUTDOOR ADVENTURE USA AMATEUR RADIO NET:
Every Thursday night at 7:30pm PST

Repeater
146.385+ PL: 146.2 Keller Peak (Echolink Equipped)

User avatar
DennisDawg
Posts: 240
Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 5:36 pm
Call Sign: K6DOB
Location: Placentia, CA

Re: Facebook

#18

Post by DennisDawg » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:44 am

OLLIE wrote:You can now visit our or become a fan of the Outdoor Adventure USA Facebook page by going to the following link.

Become a FACEBOOK fan !!! OUTDOOR ADVENTURE USA
Cool deal! Facebook is a great tool and plenty of fun!
Local Repeaters On Which You Might Find Me (K6DOB):
  • Big Bear K6BB 147.330+ PL: 131.8 - Keller Peak KE6TZG: 146.385+ PL: 146.2 - Sierra Peak KD6DDM 146.610- PL: 103.5

Locked

Return to “Archived Topics”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest